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#1 2009-09-21 02:20:08

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Video Game Related Media

I've watched a lot of game related documentaries in my days which I find interesting. Some are tragic, some are funy. I'll post some of the interesting ones here. I'll try to stick with Canadian (style) Documentaries which I find more unbiased. I'll try to post a video link once or twice a week (Still hunting down the good ones).

<new> Moral Kombat -> See post 26 by xot

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/top_gun/video.html

WebCam as game input device
http://www.discoverychannel.ca/article.aspx?aid=22897

Here's one on simetry

If you know transforms this will interest you and maybe give you some ideas.

Puzzle Designer Speaks

Here's a funny high tech spoof
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/s … d_piece_of
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/a … olutionary

And a fake game news report
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/h … e_consists
The game LOL
http://www.closerangegame.com/close_range.html
In this one, I was laughing a bit at the story, which reminded me of some stories you find in some GM games where it's a little obvious that the story writer lacks the proper depth and life experience to right a story to supplement his game...


Rick Mercer (Canadian Comedian) with motion capture at EA

This is a an interesting system. For texture mapping and increasing realism as well as to influence/improve reflection and material.



more in the thread, you are welcome to add more

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#2 2009-09-21 08:55:42

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Re: Video Game Related Media

I'll try to stick with Canadian (style) Documentaries which I find more unbiased.

How unbiased of you. tongue

Keep 'em coming, this is a great topic idea. I love video game culture and the media's take on it. I've probably got some stuff I can upload or find online too. It might not be Canadian though.


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#3 2009-09-21 19:58:08

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Yeah, funny, I did not even catch my own bias. I might put in BBC stuff in there too. I'm trying not to put controversial (aka Fox-type) documentaries; ya know what I mean?.

Right now I'm trying to find the one that show people paying 200$ to have their avatar level up by professionals gamers in the ussr. That was a good one too.

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#4 2009-09-30 12:23:31

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UBXE77f.jpgThis isn't really a documentary but it's pretty interesting. It's about OnLive, a videogame service currently in beta. OnLive's hook is that the games are run completely on their servers, and they stream audio and video to you over the internet while you upload your controller inputs. Potentially any game for any platform could be played on any low-end computer via internet browser plug-in. At GDC this year they demoed Crysis running with maximum settings on a netbook. They also have a dongle called a "microconsole" that can connect to a television to provide PC gaming to people who don't even have a computer.

There are obviously huge challenges with this concept. Most people familiar with the realities of the internet would say it's simply not possible. But these guys are totally serious and their CEO, Steve Perlman, certainly has the qualifications. He was the creator of QuickTime and is one of the most knowledgeable people there is in video compression. He also has pioneering experience with thin clients, networked game consoles (XBAND for SNES and Sega), and internet set-top boxes (WebTV). If anyone can pull this off it's probably him. This video goes into quite a bit detail about how this all works and what sorts of new gaming possibilities it allows.

http://www.technologyreview.com/video/?vid=446

If this works it could have profound effects on the computing industry, an industry largely driven by gaming since the introduction of the first home computer.

Shiny Entertainment founder Dave Perry has a similar service in the works called Gaikai.


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#5 2009-09-30 19:41:10

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BBC4 have just run a biting and very funny show about videogame culture by television personality Charlie Brooker. It takes the form of what could be a very boring retrospective of genres and historically significant games. The first thing that sets this apart is handling things with a decidedly British slant -- the indie scene that flourished in Britain in the 1980s is too often overlooked. Where this truly rises above is by providing some really thoughtful insight into what makes games so popular with gamers and so unpopular with everyone else. There are some good design lessons to be found here, and it's nice to get them from videogame lovers rather than videogame designers who don't have time to play games.

In the UK you can watch at the BBC website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 … Gameswipe/

All others will have to enter the seedy underbelly of YouTube:


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#6 2009-09-30 23:11:14

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Good vid...


As for the Onlive stuff. I pray to god it works and made available where I live.  Interesting, I mean you need multiple VMs running on a lot of servers. 1 VM per player. I'm sure internet providers will enjoy charging you extra for the downloading more data your contract specified...

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#7 2009-09-30 23:57:24

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USA only I'm afraid but if it is successful here plans are to take it worldwide.


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#8 2009-10-30 18:29:08

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Here's one on simetry

If you know transforms this will interest you and maybe give you some ideas.

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#9 2009-10-31 07:38:45

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That was pretty interesting. I even found the Rolex ad at the end interesting. I didn't have the foggiest notion of how the field was developed, it certainly is a dramatic story. The talk hasn't inspired any new ideas just yet, but it did remind me of a kaleidoscope I made in GM a couple of years ago. I've posted it in the UV Hijinks topic.


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#10 2009-10-31 20:08:29

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Understanding this is very useful. In GMModelFix, you usually rotate the model so it faces the +x and it's top is on the +z or -z (you decide). at first, I had trouble clicking the right axis rototion sequences which are defaulted to rotate 90 degress... Trial and error. If you know what you are doing you can flip it arround in just 3 clicks.

Anyway, when I saw this It got me thinking on how to limit the number of transforms in 3d games, depending on the model. If it's simetrical, you could save on the calls. Eg scale -1 on the x instead of rotate on the x 180 then 180 on the y...

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#11 2009-11-01 03:16:43

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Learning this stuff would have helped me years ago. Around 1997 I was doing a lot procedural texturing experiments. Most of my time was being spent on solid texturing but I was also having fun with creating tiling textures. One of the biggest stumbling blocks was symmetry. The graphics company Xaos Tools had just released something called Terrazzo that created these beautiful tiling textures with various forms of symmetry. I remember spending a lot of time staring at their magazine ads and trying to recreate the effects. Most of the time was spent trying to categorize them and break them down into simple operations. I never really got very far, I just didn't have the mathematical foundation required. It would have never occurred to me that there was an entire branch of mathematics devoted to it.


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#12 2009-11-01 18:32:48

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I saw a documentary on Turkish or islamic tiling methods. For a long time people could not figure out how they did it. Turns out they had a few basic shapes that are pretty easy, even for the aprentice to put together, like puzzel pieces and make pretty complex stuff with no effort. We forget that in those days, scholars spent their life religiously studying this stuff. I assume someone figured the basic shapes and gave them to the tilers to use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessellation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girih_tiles

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#13 2009-11-01 23:10:30

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Oh, and remember that Multi-Texture Maping Video you posted?


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#14 2009-11-02 20:12:34

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Here's a funny high tech spoof
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/s … d_piece_of
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/a … olutionary

And a fake game news report
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/h … e_consists
The game LOL
http://www.closerangegame.com/close_range.html
In this one, I was laughing a bit at the story, which reminded me of some stories you find in some GM games where it's a little obvious that the story writer lacks the proper depth and life experience to right a story to supplement his game...

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#15 2009-11-02 22:54:32

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I signed up for OnLive's beta long ago, but haven't heard anything back... can't wait to try it out.

Gaikai has been looking pretty promising also -- check out their slightly old demo.

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#16 2009-11-03 04:59:14

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This thing is great. But where I am, the isps still limit the bandwidth... I can only donload/upload x amount per month. These games would drain my wallet in surcharges.

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#17 2009-11-03 05:21:19

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I'm eager to try Gaikai too, although I'm not too impressed with their marketing. That page you linked to makes it look like Dave Perry's primary strategies are to bash OnLive and to aim lower. They both come off incredibly weak. And when he crows, "Eurogamer did a technical review of OnLive and really beat them up, and they offered to review our tech. So we embraced this," it's very misleading.

Eurogamer didn't beat them up, they praised OnLive. What they doubted was that video compression could be fast enough or of acceptable quality, that latency issues could be overcome, and that it would be feasible to host all the computers required. Gaikai has exactly those same questions to answer. Eurogamer gives Gaikai a greater chance of success because it runs at lower resolution and at a lower framerate and with greater lag. Didn't they just say that was unacceptable in their write-up of OnLive?

I do think Dave Perry's "MP3 is good enough" strategy is a smart one. We'll see how it stacks up against OnLive seemingly high aspirations. Until people start reporting actual experiences, it comes down to whose sales pitch you like best. OnLive tries to dazzle you with slickly presented miracle technology that does the "impossible". Gaikai tries to win you over with pragmatism and FUD. Both are a bit slimy. I can't wait to see some real reviews or, better yet, try them myself.


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#18 2009-11-05 02:30:16

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Rick Mercer (Canadian Comedian) with motion capture at EA

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#19 2009-11-07 22:26:46

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icuurd12b42 wrote:

Rick Mercer (Canadian Comedian) with motion capture at EA

That got me laughing hard. Awesome.

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#20 2009-11-09 18:13:26

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Really interesting portable augmented reality system that is inexpensive, built with off-the-self technology, and doesn't require head-mounted displays or hand-held dongles.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/patt … sense.html

The talk is a bit old but the news is fresh. This technology has just been open sourced in an effort to more quickly get it into the hands of people. The video explores a lot of interesting possibilities. Although gaming isn't discussed I think the potential here could be enormous.

via Slashdot
MIT Grad To Make Digital "SixthSense" Open Source
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/09/171204


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